Batman: The Cult (New Edition)

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Josh: Alright, I think everyone knows the drill by now. Any initial thoughts on selecting this book? Starlin’s writing seems to channel Miller. There is the same grizzled and cynical tone to Batman’s narration and observations. “I’ve seen their type before,” Batman reflects as he encounters a bunch of violent teenagers. “Creatures without conscience or remorse.” During the fight, he reflects, “I decide to take it easy on them. But not too easy.” Starlin’s writing captures a lot of Miller’s voice, but there’s a lot less irony to The Cult. Big Guns • Brothers in Blood • A Darker Shade of Justice • Freefall • The Great Leap • The Hunt for Oracle • A Knight in Bludhaven • The Lost Year • Love and Bullets • Love and War • Mobbed Up • On the Razor's Edge • Renegade • Road to Nowhere • Rough Justice • Ties That Bind • Traps and Trapezes • Year One One of the lead characters is known for being a heavy drinker, and then proves it at a dinner party, where he slurs his speech and repeats jokes while binge drinking wine. Hookah smoking. Character drinks from a flask. Barrels of booze emptied out by Prohibition-era police.

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Casper: I mean, the stuff at the end with the enormous Batmobile is awesome! I just love how over-the-top that is. Book One: Ordeal": It is dark in the Wayne Estate and Bruce Wayne finds himself walking towards a mysterious house that has never existed before. Lured by some mysterious and magnetic attraction, Bruce is tempted to enter the eerie place and he goes deep into the dar The next issue features a note indicating that Todd Klein was incorrectly credited as the letterer of this issue. The actual letterer was John Costanza. I had heard about Batman: The Cult but I hadn’t a clear idea of what was about, but I knew that if I have the chance to get it, I haven’t to hesitate about it. But I see why this is considered a classic. It’s violent and disturbing but very Batman. And it’s a great Jason Todd story too.The Others: Not sure about this one. It seemed to hold together as a story while I was reading it, but on analysis the holes are… maddening. Maybe they were supposed to be. Casper: I like it for the most part, but my favorite bits aren’t the bits with the homeless. I like the scenes where Batman’s basically tripped out of his gourd, and I like the bit where he’s in Central Park a lot. But the homeless stuff…you know, at the start of the story it’s all right, it works well enough. But then we get to a point where the National Guard comes in, and they are unable to stop homeless people who behave like a bunch of wild, out-of-control animals rather than actual people. I really can’t take that seriously. Why can’t the army stop the homeless? It just becomes unintentionally hilarious! What is this? An episode of South Park? When this series came out in 1988 I was newly married, finishing college and working two jobs. I had made a half-hearted decision to stop buying comics. When I read this Jim Starlin series, I hated it. It was the catalyst for me to stop buying comics. Interestingly, The Cult also features Jason Todd as Robin and is most likely the only Todd trade outside of A Death in the Family. For once he's not annoying. This is certainly his strongest performance, one last hoorah before death. Denny O'Neil and Neal Adams are mostly credited for returning Batman to his gothic roots. However, Batman was fully solidified in the late '70s with writers Steve Englehart and Len Wein and artists Marshall Rogers and Walt Simonson. Their 10-issue arc "Strange Apparitions" may not have explicitly redefined Batman, but it sent the message that the darker, more menacing Batman was here to say.

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Bad: The dialogue can be really really outdated, making it hard to take serious at times. I also thought the ending became odd, and nothing like the Bruce we know. Even adding in gun use? Yeah...no.Love Interests • Origins • Other Media • Publication History • Recommended Reading • Storylines • Video Games • Batman Family Michael : I got some major The Dark Knight Rises vibes from the anti-elite angle so I wasn’t surprised to learn that Christopher Nolan took inspiration from this book. Since then, always trying to hurt Gotham City, and each time, bigger and bigger his ambitions and the scope of his plans… When Batman pursues a case on the outskirts of Gotham City, he finds himself working with the Gotham County Sheriff's department. What starts as a run-of-the-mill murder case for the Caped Crusader becomes a battle against zombies and a race to rid himself of a terrible curse. Written by Steve Niles with art by Scott Hampton, Gotham County Line is one of Batman's better horror outings. This is a four issue mini, published in 1988. For historical context, it's one year after Year One, one year before Jason Todd gets voted to death, and the same year as The Killing Joke. So it is dark, to say the least. Batman gets kidnapped and brainwashed by a murderous cult, which then goes on to take over Gotham City. Nearly all of the violence happens on panel, so there's tons of blood.

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Agreed about the use of guns overall. Seems so cavalier about it. Would have liked more desperation- concern before he simply built bat tank version 1.0Matina: Yeah, unfortunately I found myself skimming many of the “talking heads” scenes, after a while they’re simply not engaging anymore. Zum Inhalt will ich nicht viel sagen, es handelt sich um eine durchaus komplexe Handlung, die den Namen Graphic Novel verdient. Insgesamt sehr düster, aber das ist bei Batman nicht ungewöhnlich. Dass die Story sehr kontrovers aufgenommen wurde und warum dem so war, läßt sich im Internet gut nachlesen. when you can get your hands on some stuff by Starlin but in the distinguished competition, well, it’s not brainer to buy it right away.

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Michael : I’ll tell on myself and say I didn’t realize this was Jason until later in the story. I’m really not all that familiar with him, but I thought he was very likable and well utilized in the story, but I can’t say he felt all that distinct. Angered at being rejected by his idol, Nashton begins ranting to which Batman realizes that Nashton still has something planned. Upon realizing Batman hasn't figured out his next course of action, a delighted Nashton gives him one last clue by singing "Ave Maria," the song sung at the Mitchell's funeral to imply that the final part of the plan is mayor-elect Bella Real's assassination. However, Batman fails to realize this and exclaims, "What have you done!?"broken. The second half however was very exciting and extremely dark. Batman The Cult also boasts a very menacing and EVIL antagonist. Michael: I do feel that after a while, the book loses focus and becomes ridiculously large scale in a manner I had no idea was coming. It’s also an incredibly mean book and maybe the current state of the world that created this book club in the first place made me a little less endeared to its plot. The controversy comes, in part, from the murder -- the one Batman apparently commits. Armed with a machine-gun and hallucinating, Batman opens fire on what he thinks is the Joker. The dying man then changes to look like James Gordon and finally the truth is revealed. However, the murder is shown in such a fashion to one could argue Batman didn't actually do the killing. But those are just the hardcore unable to accept the truth -- Batman murdered a man while under the influence of a cult, incapable of controlling his actions or trusting his own senses.